{"id":4529,"date":"2015-01-18T11:33:36","date_gmt":"2015-01-18T16:33:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/?p=4529"},"modified":"2015-01-20T10:53:25","modified_gmt":"2015-01-20T15:53:25","slug":"sony-a7-ii-vs-sony-a6000-landscape-use","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/sony-a7-ii-vs-sony-a6000-landscape-use\/","title":{"rendered":"Sony A7 II vs. Sony A6000 &#8211; Landscape Use"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>There&#8217;s a fierce running debate about the merits of full frame vs. APS-C or even smaller sensors like Micro 4\/3. \u00a0Full frame has an image quality advantage due to the larger sensors, and given the same technology, will produce cleaner images with better tonality and larger dynamic range. \u00a0Many people will argue that full frame is such a huge leap in image quality that the smaller sensors aren&#8217;t even worth their time. \u00a0For some shooters, this may well be the case: they need every ounce of image quality out of their cameras that they can get, due to shooting in demanding situations, printing huge or other considerations. \u00a0Others prefer full frame because of the ability to provide greater subject separation with fast glass. People who shoot a lot in dim light may want or need the better high ISO performance that comes with the larger sensor. \u00a0Those advantages are tangible and real, and while all large sensor cameras produce pretty darn good images at high ISO nowadays, full frame will still provide the cleanest results at high ISO if the sensor technologies are comparable.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_4545\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4545\" style=\"width: 640px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/a7_a6000.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-4545\" src=\"http:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/a7_a6000-1024x439.jpg\" alt=\"Sony A7 II vs A6000\" width=\"640\" height=\"274\" srcset=\"https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/a7_a6000-1024x439.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/a7_a6000-300x129.jpg 300w, https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/a7_a6000.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-4545\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sony A7 II vs A6000<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>These are all valid reasons to choose one format over another, but how does Full Frame stack up against APS-C in a situation where we&#8217;re shooting at base ISO on a tripod? \u00a0The classic landscape shooting scenario? \u00a0Many will still argue there&#8217;s a big difference, but how big is that difference? \u00a0To try to start to answer that question, I took my a6000 along with me when I was out shooting with the new <a title=\"Review: Sony A7II\" href=\"http:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/review-sony-a7ii\/\">A7II<\/a> and <a title=\"Review: Carl Zeiss FE 16-35mm f\/4 Vario-Tessar ZA OSS\" href=\"http:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/review-carl-zeiss-fe-16-35mm-f4-vario-tessar-za-oss\/\">16-35mm OSS<\/a>. \u00a0The A7II + 16-35mm combination pairs a brand-new 24 megapixel full frame camera with a pro-grade ultra-wide angle zoom. \u00a0The combination together retails for $3,046. \u00a0On the smaller side, I brought the <a title=\"Review: Sony a6000\" href=\"http:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/review-sony-a6000\/\">a6000<\/a> and the<a title=\"Review: Rokinon (Samyang) 12mm f\/2.0 NCS CS (Sony E-Mount)\" href=\"http:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/review-rokinon-samyang-12mm-f2-0-ncs-cs-sony-e-mount\/\"> Rokinon 12mm f\/2<\/a>. This is the latest 24 Megapixel APS-C sensor from Sony, along with a very good ultra-wide prime. This combination together retails for $857 at the moment. That&#8217;s quite a monetary savings. \u00a0The lens and body together weight 549g, which is slightly lighter than the A7 II body by itself.<\/p>\n<h3>The Test<\/h3>\n<p>First off: a disclaimer. \u00a0This test does not test all aspects of full frame vs. APS-C. \u00a0It tests it in two typical landscape situations. \u00a0I didn&#8217;t have a chance to test the cameras in a bright sunlight situation, and I&#8217;d have liked to, but this is what you get. \u00a0It is also not a test per se between the lenses. These are two lenses that are both very good, but obviously each has strenghts and weaknesses. I&#8217;m looking at noise, tonal rolloff, etc as the primary concerns in this test.<\/p>\n<p>In the course of my shooting with the A7 II, I stopped during two scenes to switch to the a6000 and capture a similar scene. \u00a0Due to how the body plates attached, I wasn&#8217;t able to keep exact framing between the two shots, but they are very close (the tripod was not moved). \u00a0All images were taken tripod mounted, stabilization\u00a0off (in the case of the A7 II), with 2 second remote release. \u00a0Image processing was identical (save for white balance adjustments to get them as close as possible in tonal display). \u00a0Aperture was adjusted to provide similar depth of field for each image (for instance, f\/16 on the A7 II, f\/11 on the a6000). \u00a0As such, the exposures are longer on the A7 II shot, so water might look slightly smoother as a result.<\/p>\n<p>Image 1: Under the falls. \u00a0This shot had a somewhat wide range of tones, with the area under the ledge being quite dark, and the area beyond the falls being light by ambient daylight. \u00a0Exposure was adjusted to taste for highlights and shadows and then duplicated on the other camera&#8217;s images. \u00a0All images are at ISO 100.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_4535\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4535\" style=\"width: 313px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/falls_a7II.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-4535\" src=\"http:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/falls_a7II-678x1024.jpg\" alt=\"Under the Falls - Sony A7 II with Carl Zeiss 16-35mm f\/4 OSS @ 18mm, f\/14, 20s, ISO 100\" width=\"313\" height=\"473\" srcset=\"https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/falls_a7II-678x1024.jpg 678w, https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/falls_a7II-199x300.jpg 199w, https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/falls_a7II.jpg 683w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 313px) 100vw, 313px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-4535\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Under the Falls &#8211; Sony A7 II with Carl Zeiss 16-35mm f\/4 OSS @ 18mm, f\/14, 20s, ISO 100<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_4533\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4533\" style=\"width: 313px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/falls_a6000.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-4533\" src=\"http:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/falls_a6000-678x1024.jpg\" alt=\"Under the Falls - Sony a6000 with Rokinon 12mm f\/2 @ 12mm, f\/8, 6s, ISO 100\" width=\"313\" height=\"473\" srcset=\"https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/falls_a6000-678x1024.jpg 678w, https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/falls_a6000-199x300.jpg 199w, https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/falls_a6000.jpg 683w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 313px) 100vw, 313px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-4533\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Under the Falls &#8211; Sony a6000 with Rokinon 12mm f\/2 @ 12mm, f\/8, 6s, ISO 100<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>As you can see from the shots above, the overall images are extremely similar. \u00a0But how do they compare when examining the files at full size? \u00a0Below I&#8217;ve compiled 100% crops from the images at four locations in the frame. \u00a0Click on the image to enlarge, then click on the green arrow at the bottom of the screen to view at 100%.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_4530\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4530\" style=\"width: 535px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/A7II_a6000_crops1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-4530\" src=\"http:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/A7II_a6000_crops1-535x1024.jpg\" alt=\"100% Crops - A7 II vs a6000, Image 1\" width=\"535\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/A7II_a6000_crops1-535x1024.jpg 535w, https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/A7II_a6000_crops1-157x300.jpg 157w, https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/A7II_a6000_crops1.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 535px) 100vw, 535px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-4530\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">100% Crops &#8211; A7 II vs a6000, Image 1<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The result? \u00a0Well, the A7 II image is better. \u00a0Slightly. \u00a0VERY slightly. \u00a0There is slightly more subtle tonal gradation that can be seen in the last crop, and very slightly smoother quality in the shadow areas. \u00a0The thing is, you have to REALLY look to see these differences, and they&#8217;re only apparent when viewing images side by side at 100%. \u00a0I&#8217;m confident that these differences would be invisible until we start printing up around 24&#8243; or larger, and even then, you&#8217;d need to be very closely examining the prints. \u00a0With different scenes and such? \u00a0In my opinion, you&#8217;d never be able to tell these apart.<\/p>\n<h3>Image 2<\/h3>\n<p>For the next image, I had a broad depth of field I was trying to cover, with the close rock (which drops off a ledge) leading to the waterfall. \u00a0As such, I was stopped down to f\/16 on the FF combo and f\/11 on the a6000. \u00a0I made a small goof in framing here, setting the 16-35mm to 21mm instead of 18mm, so details will be slightly larger in the A7 II crops as a result, but this isn&#8217;t an assessment of lens quality, but rather how the sensor images things. \u00a0This is also a good test because both images were underexposed, and therefore pushed in postprocessing by 1.1 stops in Lightroom. This will give us an idea how these cameras respond to somewhat significant exposure adjustments and processing for this type of work. \u00a0First, the images:<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_4534\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4534\" style=\"width: 313px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"http:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/falls2_a7II.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-4534\" src=\"http:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/falls2_a7II-678x1024.jpg\" alt=\"Lower Falls - Sony A7 II with Carl Zeiss 16-35mm f\/4 OSS @ 21mm, f\/16, ISO 100\" width=\"313\" height=\"473\" srcset=\"https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/falls2_a7II-678x1024.jpg 678w, https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/falls2_a7II-199x300.jpg 199w, https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/falls2_a7II.jpg 683w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 313px) 100vw, 313px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-4534\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Lower Falls &#8211; Sony A7 II with Carl Zeiss 16-35mm f\/4 OSS @ 21mm, f\/16, ISO 100<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_4532\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4532\" style=\"width: 313px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/falls2_a6000.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-4532\" src=\"http:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/falls2_a6000-678x1024.jpg\" alt=\"Lower Falls - Sony a6000 with Rokinon 12mm f\/2 @ 12mm, f\/11, ISO 100\" width=\"313\" height=\"473\" srcset=\"https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/falls2_a6000-678x1024.jpg 678w, https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/falls2_a6000-199x300.jpg 199w, https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/falls2_a6000.jpg 683w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 313px) 100vw, 313px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-4532\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Lower Falls &#8211; Sony a6000 with Rokinon 12mm f\/2 @ 12mm, f\/11, ISO 100<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Again, the two images look awfully similar. \u00a0Let&#8217;s dive in up close:<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_4531\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4531\" style=\"width: 535px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/A7II_a6000_crops2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-4531\" src=\"http:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/A7II_a6000_crops2-535x1024.jpg\" alt=\"100% Crops, Image 2 - Sony A7 II vs. Sony A6000\" width=\"535\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/A7II_a6000_crops2-535x1024.jpg 535w, https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/A7II_a6000_crops2-157x300.jpg 157w, https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/A7II_a6000_crops2.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 535px) 100vw, 535px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-4531\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">100% Crops, Image 2 &#8211; Sony A7 II vs. Sony A6000<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Again, the images are extremely close. \u00a0The A7 II has a little lower noise in the pushed shadows from the exposure adjustment, but otherwise, they are very similar images. \u00a0If you&#8217;re just looking at cost, is the difference above worth over triple the price and double the weight? \u00a0That&#8217;s something only you can answer. In this situation, I personally think the differences are small enough as to be negligible, but only each photographer can make that determination for how it impacts their photography.<\/p>\n<p>I do think it&#8217;s clear that, for landscape use at least, the differences between full-frame and APS-C are not quite as big as is often made out to be. \u00a0On the flip side, this test doesn&#8217;t take into account the other benefits of moving to a full-frame sensor: better noise control and better subject isolation with fast lenses, and the A7 II definitely does still have an advantage in image quality here. \u00a0It&#8217;s just rather small. \u00a0This is just one test among thousands that could be performed, but hopefully this helps you cut through some of the hyperbole that often comes out in discussions of sensor size. \u00a0If landscape use is your primary reason for shooting, it is worth looking at the whole picture, and pick a camera and system that fits your needs better.<\/p>\n<p>If you&#8217;re interested in more about each of the piece of gear compared here, check out my in-depth reviews for the <a title=\"Review: Sony A7II\" href=\"http:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/review-sony-a7ii\/\">Sony A7 II<\/a>, <a title=\"Review: Sony a6000\" href=\"http:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/review-sony-a6000\/\">Sony a6000<\/a>, <a title=\"Review: Carl Zeiss FE 16-35mm f\/4 Vario-Tessar ZA OSS\" href=\"http:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/review-carl-zeiss-fe-16-35mm-f4-vario-tessar-za-oss\/\">Zeiss FE 16-35mm<\/a>, and <a title=\"Review: Rokinon (Samyang) 12mm f\/2.0 NCS CS (Sony E-Mount)\" href=\"http:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/review-rokinon-samyang-12mm-f2-0-ncs-cs-sony-e-mount\/\">Rokinon 12mm f\/2<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><em>Purchasing your gear through the B&amp;H Product Links below helps support Admiring Light without any additional cost to you.<\/em><br \/>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" style=\"border: none;\" src=\"http:\/\/mer54715.datafeedfile.com\/widget\/aff_widget_prdt_generate-2.0.php?aff_num=13081&amp;aff_net=1&amp;widget_num=6201&amp;sid=\" width=\"300\" height=\"250\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\">Your browser does not support iFrame.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><\/iframe><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There&#8217;s a fierce running debate about the merits of full frame vs. APS-C or even smaller sensors like Micro 4\/3. \u00a0Full frame has an image quality advantage due to the larger sensors, and given the same technology, will produce cleaner images with better tonality and larger dynamic range. \u00a0Many people will argue that full frame [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":4545,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"cybocfi_hide_featured_image":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"enabled":false},"version":2},"_links_to":"","_links_to_target":""},"categories":[22],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4529","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-shop"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/a7_a6000.jpg","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p28RGq-1b3","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4529","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4529"}],"version-history":[{"count":16,"href":"https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4529\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4552,"href":"https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4529\/revisions\/4552"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/4545"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4529"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4529"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/admiringlight.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4529"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}