Thoughts on the Panasonic 12-35mm f/2.8 and Olympus 75mm f/1.8

May 27, 2012

Jordan Steele

Olympus 75mm f/1.8

On Thursday, Olympus announced the 75mm f/1.8 that had been displayed earlier in the year. This is a fast medium telephoto, corresponding to a 150mm lens on full frame, that Olympus says is the highest performing lens they’ve made for the Micro 4/3 system. If that turns out to be true, it will truly be a stellar optic. I own and have reviewed their outstanding 45mm f/1.8 and 12mm f/2. If the 75mm f/1.8 is better than those, it will be a very special lens from a technical standpoint. They’ve priced the lens at $899, which is higher than some expected, but not out of line with their other premium lens pricing, like that of the 12mm f/2.

Looking at the official sample photos (which can be viewed here), I think the lens looks to be a real winner. It’s got beautiful bokeh, a lovely contrast and color signature and is quite sharp at the focal point. It also seems to exhibit very well controlled longitudinal chromatic aberration and fringing, which is usually a big problem on lenses of this focal length and aperture.

The downside for some with this lens is that the focal length of 75mm is a little longer than the ‘standard’ portrait lengths (corresponding to 85-135mm on full frame). For some this will not make sense as a portrait lens, and in fact it will likely be somewhat of a niche lens. I think it would be great for longer portraiture. I used to own a Sigma 150mm f/2.8 Macro when I used Canon full frame DSLRs, and it was a wonderful lens. If the 75/1.8 can be anywhere as good, it’ll be a truly stellar lens. I think the 75mm f/1.8 also will make for a wonderful lens for shooting concerts or theater performances. Its fast f/1.8 aperture will help keep ISO down and it’s a fast focusing lens as well.

It’s also extremely well built, with an all-metal build and a the same finish as the 12mm f/2, though lacking that lens’ focus clutch mechanism for manual focus. On the downside, it looks like Olympus will continue to make buyers purchase their lens hoods separately. This continues to annoy, since Panasonic includes the hood with all of its lenses, from the cheap 14-42 zoom all the way up to its high end optics. Olympus needs to include hoods on their high end lenses at a minimum, in my opinion.

Overall, these two lens announcements continue to add high quality lenses to the Micro 4/3 system. One more lens from each manufacturer (the 35-100mm f/2.8 from Panasonic and the 60mm f/2.8 Macro from Olympus) is expected later this summer.

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16 responses to “Thoughts on the Panasonic 12-35mm f/2.8 and Olympus 75mm f/1.8”

M4/3Fan

May 27, 2012

To add to your comment that others view the depth of field at f/2.8 on the Panasonic 12-35mm to be equivalent to a f/5.6 as a negative. Some might see that as an advantage. One does not need to stop down as far to obtain greater depth of field in an image. If you need it, for landscape photography, etc, then this helps you with a lower aperture or greater depth of field for the same aperture.

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1. El Aura
  
  May 28, 2012
  
  What is the inherent advantage of achieving your DOF at f/2.8 (and, eg, 1/50 s & ISO 200) with m43 instead of f/5.6 (and 1/50 s & ISO 800) with FF, or f/4 (and 1/50 s & ISO 400) on DX?
  
  Right, there is none. For medium to high DOF, the advantage of m43 is in size and weight (and depending on lens and camera: price). But the lower numeric value of the f-stop for a given DOF is NOT an advantage, it is an irrelevance.
  
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  1. Ricardo
    
    May 29, 2012
    
    While it’s a bit disingenuous to suggest that a m4/3 f2.8 having equivalent DOF to full frame f5.6 is a ‘benefit’, there ARE some upsides:
    
    1) Video. On M43 I can shoot in low light without wafer-thin DOF. (Not everyone wants shallow DOF all the time.)
    2) Low light interiors. On M43 I can shoot at a reasonably wide aperture, safe in the knowledge that I’m not going to ruin the photo with loads of OOF areas.
    3) Yes, landscapes. If a lens’ ideal performance range is f3-6, isn’t it nice to be able to shoot landscapes in that range, and not stop down to an aperture where the lens isn’t quite so sharp?
    
    Again, there are plenty of downsides to the M43 DOF situation, but some advantages too (which are oft forgotten).
    
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Agent00soul

May 28, 2012

I didn’t get a lens hood with my Panasonic 20/1.7 and I have heard of no-one else that got one.

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Alan Halfhill

May 28, 2012

You may not be buying the 12-35, but I will. We video guys love variable primes. f/2.8 fits the bill. Neither Canon nor Nikon have an Image Stabilized 24-70. OIS is also wonderful shooting video. I agree the price should be around $1000. I have not read anywhere on the the web that Panasonic has officially set the US list price will be. It has not been in any press releases. It has not been @ DPreview and many other preview sites. It seems the camera stores are trying to set the price.

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Ronnbot

May 28, 2012

The 20/1.7 and 14/2.5 don’t come with lens hoods. The also don’t a way to quickly attach a hood, but you can use a common filter ring type hood. I use a rangefinder metal hood on my 20/1.7.

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sacundim

May 28, 2012

Back before the days of the 70-200mm zoom lenses, the most common lens to play that “all in one telephoto” role was a 135mm prime lens. It’s a really useful focal length; it can do excellent portraiture if you’ve got the space, but it’s also just great for isolating little details around you, and for shooting landscapes.

I’ve always liked this focal length much better than the 85-105 range, so I’m just delighted at this Olympus lens.

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Daemonius

May 28, 2012

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/928678

Just check this.. its thread worth looking at, especially some landscapes. 🙂

Macro has DOF advantage too, reason why some ppl love Olympus 4/3 system until today..

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Dave

May 29, 2012

I really like the look of this lens but the price is far too high. I could get a full frame nikkor 24-70mm f/2.8 for £200 more in the UK or the tamron 24-70mm with stabilization for the same price as this. There is a lot more optical glass in those two lenses that somewhat justify the price. I can’t justify spending twice what my gx1+14mm f/2.5 + 14-42mm kit cost on one standard zoom lens. The other thing about the nikkor glass is that I am pretty much guaranteed to get 80% of what I paid for it back if I come to sell it, you can never say the same for m43 kit.

I think your 3rd point about the aperture is pretty moot. It is like saying that there is no new Ferrari that goes from 0-60mph in 12 seconds. That is true but it is because they all do it in 4 seconds but could take 12 if they wanted. Pretty much all f/2.8 or f/4 zooms in this range will be as good as this at f/5.6. I love my gx1, and gf1 before that, but I am seriously considering stopping my investment in the system and getting a nikon D600 (if it is like the rumours suggest) with a fast standard zoom to compliment the gx1 + 14/20mm primes that I will use when low size+weight is important.

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T N Args

May 29, 2012

Surely lens pricing should go up and down with the size of the glass elements. That’s why the Canon 400mm f4 costs so much more than the 400mm f5.6.

Now the Canon EF-S 17-55mm f2.8 IS costs $1000. It produces a 28mm image circle.

The new Panasonic equivalent produces a 22mm image circle, has smaller glass elements, and should be cheaper.

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1. Anders
  
  May 29, 2012
  
  Smaller can also mean more difficult to construct i.e. more expensive… /A
  
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Davey

May 29, 2012

The cost of developing a product and selling it at not very closely related to parts cost until you get into truly large scale production.

I don’t know what volumes the 12-35 will be made in but I would imagine they are relatively small in terms of consumer electronics; perhaps a few thousand per month. At these levels the R&D investment, production tooling, sales, marketing and distribution costs will represent a significant chunk of the pricing equation.

Panasonic have done a deal in the UK, ten lenses for £699 ea. (list in the UK is close to £1,000). I think this is probably a good indication of where the pricing will settle: $1,000 US, 800 Euro, £700 UK. Those prices are still on the high side but not outrageous.

I would like it to be £500 but Panasonic are first to market with a fast normal zoom so they are setting a price which will give them a decent return. You could say it’s harsh but it also seems like a normal commercial decision too.

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Buck Brinson

May 30, 2012

Is the lens parafocal? This is absolutely necessary for video

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Raj Sarma

May 30, 2012

“Name an f/5.6 standard zoom that has anywhere near this level of performance. Can’t come up with one? That’s because it doesn’t exist.”

This is such a false statement, I loved the 12-60mm lens on 4/3s and after switching to Nikon use the 24-120mm F/4 lens which is a stellar performer wide open through the entire focal range. And guess what, it costs the same as this lens and in fact can be had cheaper.

Apart from the price, understand that there isn’t an inherent advantage to be gained in terms of DoF at these focal lengths and apertures, so I’d have appreciated that Pana-Olympus cameup with a quality 12-60mm F/4 zoom which is reasonably priced around $700-$800 and would in fact prove to be more versatile and useful.

i love the concept of m4/3s, but I feel both Panasonic & Olympus are milking the cash cow. The E-P3 was so grossly overpriced and even the lenses are generally fabricated from plastic, use digital correction and lesser glass. Which is all fine with me, but you can’t tell people it costs the same to manufacture!

Lastly, to suggest that this is the best F2.8 zoom ever is disingenuous to say the least.

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david blanchard

September 28, 2012

Very nice read, i would love to get this lense to go along with my 25mm coming next week. I was wondering if your going to review the g5. Im not seeing alot of press on it and i think its a fantastic camera that needs some more attention

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